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The Same Old New Thing
12/13/11 at 3:10pm
 
In which Kurt Anderson kvetches to Vanity Fair about creative stagnation in America:

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The past is a foreign country. Only 20 years ago the World Wide Web was an obscure academic thingamajig. All personal computers were fancy stand-alone typewriters and calculators that showed only text (but no newspapers or magazines), played no video or music, offered no products to buy. E-mail (a new coinage) and cell phones were still novelties. Personal music players required cassettes or CDs. Nobody had seen a computer-animated feature film or computer-generated scenes with live actors, and DVDs didn’t exist. The human genome hadn’t been decoded, genetically modified food didn’t exist, and functional M.R.I. was a brand-new experimental research technique. Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden had never been mentioned in The New York Times. China’s economy was less than one-eighth of its current size. CNN was the only general-interest cable news channel. Moderate Republicans occupied the White House and ran the Senate’s G.O.P. caucus.

Since 1992, as the technological miracles and wonders have propagated and the political economy has transformed, the world has become radically and profoundly new. (And then there’s the miraculous drop in violent crime in the United States, by half.) Here is what’s odd: during these same 20 years, the appearance of the world (computers, TVs, telephones, and music players aside) has changed hardly at all, less than it did during any 20-year period for at least a century. The past is a foreign country, but the recent past—the 00s, the 90s, even a lot of the 80s—looks almost identical to the present. This is the First Great Paradox of Contemporary Cultural History.

Think about it. Picture it. Rewind any other 20-year chunk of 20th-century time. There’s no chance you would mistake a photograph or movie of Americans or an American city from 1972—giant sideburns, collars, and bell-bottoms, leisure suits and cigarettes, AMC Javelins and Matadors and Gremlins alongside Dodge Demons, Swingers, Plymouth Dusters, and Scamps—with images from 1992. Time-travel back another 20 years, before rock ’n’ roll and the Pill and Vietnam, when both sexes wore hats and cars were big and bulbous with late-moderne fenders and fins—again, unmistakably different, 1952 from 1972. You can keep doing it and see that the characteristic surfaces and sounds of each historical moment are absolutely distinct from those of 20 years earlier or later: the clothes, the hair, the cars, the advertising—all of it. It’s even true of the 19th century: practically no respectable American man wore a beard before the 1850s, for instance, but beards were almost obligatory in the 1870s, and then disappeared again by 1900. The modern sensibility has been defined by brief stylistic shelf lives, our minds trained to register the recent past as old-fashioned.

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Reply #1 - 12/14/11 at 12:18am
 
I was actually just thinking about this, because it kind of seems like the flat-top is coming back in- and I think, though I could be wrong, that was sort of a standard haircut for african american men in the '80s, but it seems kind of striking now. Mohawks are becomeing main stream, the new edgy thing seems to be to grow your hair out, than buzz a quarter of it, which kind of seems like the same concept as a mullet?

I honestly think it's a progression where there's always a few people who want to stand out and do something no one else is doing, if that looks good a few more people will join in until eventually it's no longer striking (and maybe the original look is). I think there's probably an actual social evolution where there's probably haircuts and fashions that are just more or less flattering on people and will work their way through rotation accordingly.
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Reply #2 - 12/21/11 at 2:20pm
 
There's an attorney I work with occasionally who has a flat top, but the problem is that the top part of his head is bald, so he has this weird sort of monk look.  It's... well, it's gross but kind of awesome that he thinks he's rocking out.
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Reply #3 - 12/21/11 at 3:22pm
 
"The first time I heard a Josh Ritter song a few years ago, I actually thought it was Bob Dylan."

Guess what I betcha had you went back to the 60's there would have been some old fuddy duddy that wrote "The first time I heard a Bob Dylan song a few years ago, I actually thought it was Woody Guthrie."  He would have probably blamed it on how albums were allowing everyone to listen to recorded music so nothing sounded different anymore.

Someone needs to buy this dude a James Blake album and tell him to shut the fuck up.  There is plenty of new stuff out there.

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Reply #4 - 12/21/11 at 7:09pm
 
beau wrote on 12/21/11 at 2:20pm:
There's an attorney I work with occasionally who has a flat top, but the problem is that the top part of his head is bald, so he has this weird sort of monk look.  It's... well, it's gross but kind of awesome that he thinks he's rocking out.


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Reply #5 - 12/21/11 at 7:20pm
 
I think we've had this discussion before, where someone was saying music hasn't really changed and I brought up the garage band modest mouse disco- into mult-instrumental semi nostalgic arcade fireism- to now the extremely small or solo projects that come out of the fact that creating electronic based music is cheap and acessable.  It's just always harder to notice the change when you're in it because the progression is socially relevant to you and makes sense. And even if I'm pointing out that modest mouse was a big influence on the direction of indie rock, they weren't even on the radio back then, in the early 90's... grunge was on the radio. And that's pretty different than passion pit and owl city. Just saying.

Seriously, think about what was ACTUALLY on the radio in the 90's... nirvana, alice in chain, foo fighters ect. Think about how those kids dressed. Think about the hipsters now adays. Completely different. Just because we all know modest mouse and like bands WERE around back then, they weren't main stream. Popular music has done a 180 aesthetically, if you think about the fact that grunge is about being kind of heavy, and subscribes to an "ugly beautiful" aesthetic, and then you look at the semi-electronic party rock that's on the radio now that's just pretty for the sake of being pretty.

When we look back to the '50s, we just see what was popular. Other stuff and other subcultures still existed, which might more resemble our current culture. And there's still stuff going on in the music (fashion/visual art) scene that was going on as main stream in the 90's, and we're aware of it, but to someone forty years from now they would just see that kids all of the sudden stopped wearing so much flannel and baggy jeans and started wearing tights for pants and alot more neon.
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Reply #6 - 12/21/11 at 7:42pm
 
h_lina_k wrote on 12/21/11 at 3:22pm:
Someone needs to buy this dude a James Blake album and tell him to shut the fuck up.  There is plenty of new stuff out there.

There is, and then there isn't. I've had my fair share of moments this past year, wherein I've felt that nothing that I've read, heard, or watched has truly floored me. But it's been less a matter of the matter (books, albums, films and TV shows, etc.) seeming old, or trite, or overly referential. It's just... familiar, I guess.

Which is, to some extent, a problem of the Internet—not a fault, but an issue. People consume so much digital material these days (and at such a rapid pace) that it's hard to be taken by surprise, and harder still for something to exist without copies or parodies coming hard and fast upon, or without that something being itself a copy or parody of something else, however unintentionally.

Not that this is a new problem; creative redundancy has always existed. It's just that our collective frame of experience has been artificially expanded to the point where the proverbial box is almost too large to escape.






(And then I hear stuff like The Books, and all seems bright and wonderful again.)

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Reply #7 - 12/22/11 at 9:35am
 
i guess i just found that he is looking at this with one particular view point and his arguments aren't ringing true.

he talks about car design, but first of all cars don't look like they did in the early 90s.  the suv's are bigger and everything is sleeker, largely due to aerodynamic concerns.  futhermore this is a shuffling out of a technology that is occurred over 70 years of engineering advances and there really isn't much you can do to improve the design of cars without completely throwing away certain premises (like having two seats in the front).

he talks about these advances in fashion stalling.  i do debate whether hipsters look that much different, but the fact of the matter is that during the 60s-80s there were these advances in synthetic materials that had not really occurred before and those fashions were flushing out those new technologies.  there just haven't been corresponding technology changes since then to create even more revolutionary fashions.

i do think that the computer has completely changed the way music has sounded in some genres in the past decade, but really hasn't every chord been pretty much played on a guitar by now?  and i dont think any new pedals or anything haven really come out in the past 20 years.

you could say that the focus on computer technology is focusing out developments in one area so we aren't seeing new technologies pop up elsewhere, but a. he wasn't really saying that and b. i think that is just a temporary thing.  we are totally going to see crazy new fashion once three d printers hit it, and totally new cars once electric becomes the norm, and new types of books since we really won't be confined by conventional narrative structures the same way (especially for non fiction).
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Reply #8 - 12/22/11 at 3:38pm
 
Just saw this thing about fabric that can be applied with an airbrush. This seems like it could be one of things that's too ahead of it's time and gets forgotten about for another 20 years, but it seems pretty versital, there's videos of people spraying the fabric, pealing it off to shape it, then spraying more over top of it. And what girl now adays doesn't want a pair of spray-on pants?

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